
SAINTSENECA
Saintsenecaโs Zac Little has been thinking a lot about memory. Not necessarily his memories, though they creep in often, too. Rather, he mulls over the idea of memory itself: its resilience, its haziness, how it slips away as we try to hang on, the way it resurfaces despite our best efforts to forget.
Memory is the common thread running throughout the Columbus folk-punk bandโs fourth album, Pillar of Na, arriving in late summer via ANTI- Records. Following 2015โs critically lauded Such Things, the new albumโs name is rooted in remembrance, referencing the Genesis story of Lotโs wife who looks back at a burning Sodom after God instructs her not to. She looks back, and God turns her into a pillar of salt. โNa,โ meanwhile, is the chemical symbol for sodium. โNahโ is a passive refusal and the universal song word. It means nothing and stands for nothing. It is โas it is.โ
Like Lotโs wife, Little cannot help but revisit whereโand howโhe grew up. Raised in church in southeastern Appalachian Ohio, he took up preaching when he was still a teenager, sometimes in small country settings and other times to congregations of thousands. But these days heโs more interested in listening. And questioning.
Musically, Pillar of Na is Saintsenecaโs most ambitious album to date, with Little aiming to incorporate genre elements heโd rarely heard in folk. โI wanted to use the idiom of folk-rock, or whatever you want to call it, and to try to do something that had never been done before,โ Little explains. โTo reach way back, echoing ancient folk melodies, tie that into punk rock, and then push it into the future. I told Mike Mogis I wanted Violent Femmes meets the new Blade Runner soundtrack. Iโm looking for the intersection between Kendrick Lamar and The Fairport Convention.โ
โYouโre always going to be situated in the folk legacy,โ Little continues, acknowledging his past recordings, which include three albums (the aforementioned Such Things, 2014โs Dark Arc, 2011โs Last) and three EPs (2016โs The Mallwalker, 2010โs Grey Flag, and 2009โs self-titled). โBut letโs move forward. Iโm not trying to make the lost Velvet Underground B-side. I want to find something that has never been heard before, or at least go down trying.โ

Nick Delffs
Nick Delffs is not a protest singer. Heโs not a gospel singer. Still, subversiveness and spirituality permeate Transitional Phase, his long-awaited second solo album. The product of five years of musical and personal growth that coincided with widespread social upheaval and a global pandemic โ just as Delffs navigated first-time fatherhood, losing friends, and approaching his 40s; all weaved these songs.
Now Boise-based, Nick Delffs has been a beloved staple of Pacific Northwest music since emerging with his Portland-based band The Shaky Hands in the mid-2000s. It was clear then, as it is now, that he possessed an authenticโmaybe ancientโvoice. Transitional Phase is some of his finest and most vulnerable work. As the title suggests, itโs an album about opening oneself up to change, refusing the calcification that comes with age, and opting for wholesale transformation instead.
Incidentally, โTransformationโ is the title of the albumโs opening track. Itโs a looping, percussive opener, a dub-inflected signal that Transitional Phaseโs themes of change and transfiguration will not be limited to its lyrics. Like much of the new album, it was recorded in early 2020 at co-producer/collaborator Eli Mooreโs spacious and strange stripmall studio on Whidbey Island, just outside of Seattle. However, when the sessions were interrupted by the onset of the pandemic, Delffs was forced to continue work back in Boise. He wrote constantly in the early days of the lockdown and entered a secluded vocal booth in his friend Z.V. Houseโs Boise studio. Delffs would send the resulting tracks to Moore, who often took songs in unexpected new directions. โEli added a lot,โ Delffs says. โHe really put himself in it. Iโm not sure Iโd felt that level of deep collaboration and trust since the Shaky Hands days.โ This process continued until Delffs had about three albums worth of material to sort through.
When writing, Delffs spends as much time as possible not listening to music. โThatโs really helpful for me,โ he says, โbecause then it becomes this thing where I need music, I need songsโso I have to make them.โ Delffs spent as much time thinking about cowsโyes, cows, like the John Gnorski-illustrated one on the albumโs coverโin the recording process as he did about any particular musical inspirations. Delffsโ recent trip to India, his second, was filled with cow admiration, and he picked up some cow fun-facts along the way. โThey just eat grass and somehow milk is created,โ he marvels. โTheir poo and pee is antiseptic and medicinal!โ
Still, the memory of music sneaks into the process, as Delffs found himself thinking about Tom Petty and Talking Heads, two artists he loved in childhood. One can hear echoes of David Byrne on the angular โPower and Positionโ, which also serves as a spotlight for the unmistakable accompanying vocals from LAKEโs Ashley Eriksson, whose voice has been heard by millions in Cartoon Networks โAdventure Timeโ credit music. Delffs enlisted more old friends to help flesh out Transitional Phase, including drums from Joe Plummer (The Shins, Modest Mouse, Cold War Kids), Dan Galucki (Wooden Indian Burial Ground) and Graeme Gibson (Michael Nau, Fruit Bats); keys from Luke Wyland (Au, Methods Body); strings and arrangements from composer Peter Broederick (Sharon Van Etten, M. Ward); and bass by Mayhaw Hoons, his old bandmate in The Shaky Hands.
The lush โBrave New Worldโ looks outward, juxtaposing a smooth groove from Galucki and Hoons with heavy themes of social upheaval. The titular phrase, often used ironically, is presented here with utter earnestness, underscored by Broderickโs beautiful string arrangement. Itโs one of three songs on Transitional Phaseโalong with back-to-back closers โA Perfect Stormโ and โEgomaniacsโโthat slowly transforms into a prayer. The chanted and sung lines might feel like nods to some of Nickโs favorite artists (including Alice Coltrane, George Harrison, Yamuna Devi), but they arrive on the album naturally. Delffs has long been fascinated with Hinduism, and was deeply inspired by his India trip. โMeditating and chanting are such constant parts of my life these days,โ Delffs shares. โThey came into this album like any other naturally flowing thought.โ
โTransitional Phaseโ, the towering title track at the albumโs center, is a perfect marriage of two aesthetics. Delffs brings his vulnerable, misty-eyed self-examination to the collaboration; while Moore and Eriksson bring LAKEโs exacting, literate DIY Yacht funk. The result is transcendently, sonically free, like those particularly melodic moments spent with Peter Gabriel or Kate Bush. โIn-between words and dreams, thereโs only a line,โ Delffs sings in seeming self-interrogation, โAnd youโve crossed over it so many times.โ
The songs on Transitional Phase donโt just cross that line, they dance on it. If the distance between waking life and dreams was narrow on Delffsโ 2017 solo debut Redesign, it is almost imperceptible here. He sings (and speaks, and occasionally chants) about the changing tides of our shared troubled world and all the mysterious worlds within. He yearns and searches and remembers, and occasionally wishes he could forget. He finds faith and loses it. And when he canโt find that faith again, he admits on โAbsence of Love Songโ that heโll wait โon and on and on and on for another chance.โ Maybe thatโs foolish. Or, as Delffs sings, โMaybe itโs today.โ
Nick Delffsโ Transitional Phase is due out July 26th on Mama Bird Recording Co.